{"id":1657,"date":"2024-04-28T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-04-28T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/?p=1657"},"modified":"2024-04-07T11:48:08","modified_gmt":"2024-04-07T11:48:08","slug":"updating-my-autotrail-cheyenne-electrics-part-six","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/?p=1657","title":{"rendered":"Updating my Autotrail Cheyenne Electrics &#8211; Part Six"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I bought a 12 year old  Autotrail Cheyenne Motorhome in 2020.  It was in great condition, but the electrics would have been regarded as a little dated even in 2008.   The following series of posts discussed the various upgrades carried out.  Some of the changes mentioned I later changed further in fact, so this is pretty much a Journel of Adaption<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Part Six. Added the Solar Array<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Panel Installation<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now the weather is improved, been working on the solar setup for the motorhome.<br><br>Bought the panels ages ago, carefully selected to maximize the use of the space across the roof and between two vents.<br>The panels are 90W Mono ones from Victron, as mentioned chosen due to their dimensions. Got a total of 3 panels which nicely cover the space. These will be fitted to the roof rack &#8211; using mechanical fittings as I am more more comfortable with a physical mounting than adhesive and as the rack is there may as well make use of it<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I was originally intending to make the array tiltable but when I started building the frame I though long and hard on this matter and decided that in reality I really would be unlikely to get up on the roof to do the tilting, plus the way I would have set up the tilt direction in order to have access to do it would not suit how I would want to position the van anyway. So tilting is out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cut two strips of angle to the length of the three panels and mounted the panels front and rear to them<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"461\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617466847024-1024x461.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1660\" title=\"1617466847024.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617466847024-1024x461.png 1024w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617466847024-300x135.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617466847024-768x346.png 768w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617466847024-1536x692.png 1536w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617466847024-600x270.png 600w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617466847024.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Used industrial style self-tappers to secure the panel to the angle section.<br><br>The underneath&#8230;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"345\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467188335-1024x345.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1661\" title=\"1617467188335.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467188335-1024x345.png 1024w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467188335-300x101.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467188335-768x258.png 768w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467188335-1536x517.png 1536w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467188335-600x202.png 600w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467188335.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To secure the angle to the rack, I used 38mm (1.5&#8243;) exhaust-type clamps. This is the frame secured (there are two connecting sections to help with the positioning)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"499\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467488291-1024x499.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1662\" title=\"1617467488291.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467488291-1024x499.png 1024w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467488291-300x146.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467488291-768x374.png 768w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467488291-1536x748.png 1536w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467488291-600x292.png 600w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467488291.png 1919w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the panels secured<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"567\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467669527-1024x567.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1663\" title=\"1617467669527.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467669527-1024x567.png 1024w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467669527-300x166.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467669527-768x425.png 768w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467669527-1536x850.png 1536w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467669527-600x332.png 600w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617467669527.png 1696w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Also drilled the roof to get the cables outside and routed to the array.<br>Slightly annoyingly, the cables were around 2&#8243; shorter than I would have liked for the neatest job, so that will be dealt with on Tues or Weds when a new combiner kit arrives which will effectively lengthten the cables by around 3&#8243;. Once that is done, I will put the black solar cables in a length of conduit against the side.<br>I am having the 3 panels connected in Parallel as a precaution against shading as there is an opening roof vent directly in front of AND behind the middle panel and so it is possible I could be shading that panel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The new Combiners arrived today and are just the ticket to allow the extra cable reach and which will mean I can get some conduit in place once it stops snowing!  Have to say it is so nice to have solar harvesting again &#8211; makes such a difference to get free charging again<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"520\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617739229115-1024x520.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1667\" style=\"width:514px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617739229115-1024x520.png 1024w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617739229115-300x152.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617739229115-768x390.png 768w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617739229115-1536x780.png 1536w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617739229115-600x305.png 600w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617739229115.png 1849w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now I have the new Combiners, time to fit the conduit &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-f56f613f wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Before:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515588304-1-1024x768.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1670\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515588304-1-1024x768.png 1024w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515588304-1-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515588304-1-768x576.png 768w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515588304-1-600x450.png 600w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515588304-1.png 1251w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515560174-1024x768.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1671\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515560174-1024x768.png 1024w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515560174-300x225.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515560174-768x576.png 768w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515560174-600x450.png 600w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1621515560174.png 1245w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pleased with how that has worked out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-1 wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"color:#640064bf\">[SPOILER ALERT: I added more panels to the roof array at a later date and will document that.  I am leaving this section showing the initial installation as it is all part of the &#8216;journey&#8217; I went on modifying and updating the Motorhome]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Harvesting Data<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Just did a quick look at what the array is doing &#8230;.   (note that these screenshots are from different dates so the values may appear to jump around a bit)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"411\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617468360320-1024x411.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1664\" title=\"1617468360320.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617468360320-1024x411.png 1024w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617468360320-300x120.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617468360320-768x308.png 768w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617468360320-600x241.png 600w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617468360320.png 1534w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For the time of day and I also have a large pine that blocks &#8220;prime time&#8221; harvesting as well as other parts of the day, 53W is looking quite nice. be interesting to see tomorrow when the panels are connected throughout the day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This shows the information from the VictronConnect app and also the &#8216;advanced&#8217; view from VRM &#8211; It shows how the same data is shown in the different systems and you can chose which you prefer and suits you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"386\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617532143400-1024x386.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1665\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617532143400-1024x386.png 1024w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617532143400-300x113.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617532143400-768x290.png 768w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617532143400-1536x580.png 1536w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617532143400-600x226.png 600w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1617532143400.png 1675w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The numbers for Solar Watts, Solar V&amp;C and Battery V&amp;C may often not match precisely as VE.Connect is real-time and the detailed VRM info is sampled data once a minute at the very fastest. Battery Temp usually moves a lot slower so likely would always be a match.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Just got back from a trip into town and found a very surprising result!<br>Today is a pretty yucky day &#8211; cold, miserable and rainy -so I don&#8217;t expect much from the solar.<br>But \u2026.. a very surprising peak and harvesting from the PV array<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"689\" height=\"271\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1620137755758.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1666\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1620137755758.png 689w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1620137755758-300x118.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1620137755758-600x236.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 689px) 100vw, 689px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would not expect to see 261W from a 270W array until the summertime. There must have been a clear bit of sky just as the sun was overhead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Just checking what is going on today and \u2026.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"602\" height=\"459\" src=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1620388870648.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1668\" style=\"width:637px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1620388870648.png 602w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1620388870648-300x229.png 300w, https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/1620388870648-600x457.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">268W yield from my 270W array is really good I think. These are Victron Panels I have fitted and I am wondering if, like other Victron kit, they are &#8220;under-declared&#8221; in terms of their true capacity?<br>And with 253W into the battery &#8211; so a 94.5% efficiency &#8211; that is a pretty decent conversion rate as well by the controller.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part Six: Now the weather is improved, been working on the solar setup for the motorhome.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":43,"footnotes":""},"categories":[127,11],"tags":[129],"class_list":["post-1657","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-autotrail-cheyenne","category-owner-updates","tag-autotrailjournal"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1657","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1657"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1657\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1674,"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1657\/revisions\/1674"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1657"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1657"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1961.org.uk\/testit\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1657"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}